Cup jockstraps material

[ScottTheJockGuy]

I found I need a cup jockstrap again. So I've been looking. Thinking back, every cup jock I've had, had a really soft, almost jersey (Tshirt) material to it's pouch. Compared to the mesh webbing you'd find on like, a Bike #10. I know the webbing is still easily available for regular jockstraps.

Was there a time the webbing was available for cup jocks?
If so, why did it stop?
If not, why wasn't it available?

 

[fubarnd]

I've never seen a cup jock that had a material similar to the regular jocks. The only exception would be the newer ones like Shock Doctor that are both smooth material.

 

[Bike57]

put on a swim jock first then a wideband jock and slip the cup in between. You won't be fighting the material trying to take the shape of the cup on the inside this way and you get all the support on your balls with the swim jock. Sometimes the regular cup jocks gap at the bottom when you squat if that is all you have on. Once I sewed two BIKE pouches together and cut the waistband on the outer jock slightly wider than the pouch (remove leg straps) and sewed it to the intact waistband vertically so I could insert the cup. I prefer the jock webbing over a cup jock material any day.

 

[jocksnsocks2002]

Dear Scott,

Over the course of a century of manufacturing, you are correct that two different materials were used. The porous-knit, mesh pouch is designed to regulate temperature. The solid pouch is designed so that the cup which is inside will not so easily tear the fabric in the course of movement.

There was a time that protective cups were even made out of metal, so you can imagine that the metal would tear the porous-knit, mesh pouch.

In my years as both an athlete and coach, it was a common practice in heavy contact sports (my background is in Lacrosse) that the athlete would strip down completely and strap into a regular, porous-knit jockstrap. Then, he would don a very light material (similar to today's boxer-brief) cotton short, and would next strap a protective cup over the short and the jockstrap underneath. He would then don his uniform shorts over the combination. It was tight, to be sure, but two forms of preventative sports medicine were being observed: the genitals were supported (literally) in order to minimize scrotal torsion and to provide temperature modulation using the regular jockstrap; the light material short was to prevent chafing and "raspberries" when sliding or skidding on the turf; and the protective cup was to minimize injury from direct impact to the area.

When sliding shorts and compression shorts were designed, they were also designed for a specific, preventative sports medicine purpose. The sliding shorts, as the name implies, are designed to minimize the scraping and injury to the skin when someone slides either into a base or on the turf. The compression shorts, as the name implies, are designed to compress the upper thigh region in order to minimize injury to the front and back sides (ham-strings, etc.). But! neither of these should ever be considered as an alternative to the athletic supporter, which has a different though important sports medicine purpose. Unfortunately, and inexplicably, many athletes today eschew wearing a jockstrap, and are under the impression that the sliding short or compression short (and even now, the "Peter Pan tights" which ostensibly straight athletes are wearing!) can replace the need for a proper supporter. Some companies have sewn pockets into the sliding/compression shorts, as an "all-in-one" for the athletes, but after several washings, the material in the sliding/compression shorts becomes less restrictive and the protective cup has the tendency to shift in the course of movement. What so many people do not realize is that when the cup shifts, if the athlete suddenly experiences impact, the mis-positioned cup can actually be wedged between the two testicles, thus causing horrific and painful damage.

Perhaps this is too much information, but your question is important and all of us must continue to emphasize, especially to the next generation of athletes, the literally vital importance of protecting the genitals by wearing a proper jockstrap and protective cup.

Let me know your thoughts.

Mike

 

[ScottTheJockGuy]

Dear Scott,

Over the course of a century of manufacturing, you are correct that two different materials were used. The porous-knit, mesh pouch is designed to regulate temperature. The solid pouch is designed so that the cup which is inside will not so easily tear the fabric in the course of movement.

There was a time that protective cups were even made out of metal, so you can imagine that the metal would tear the porous-knit, mesh pouch.

In my years as both an athlete and coach, it was a common practice in heavy contact sports (my background is in Lacrosse) that the athlete would strip down completely and strap into a regular, porous-knit jockstrap. Then, he would don a very light material (similar to today's boxer-brief) cotton short, and would next strap a protective cup over the short and the jockstrap underneath. He would then don his uniform shorts over the combination. It was tight, to be sure, but two forms of preventative sports medicine were being observed: the genitals were supported (literally) in order to minimize scrotal torsion and to provide temperature modulation using the regular jockstrap; the light material short was to prevent chafing and "raspberries" when sliding or skidding on the turf; and the protective cup was to minimize injury from direct impact to the area.

When sliding shorts and compression shorts were designed, they were also designed for a specific, preventative sports medicine purpose. The sliding shorts, as the name implies, are designed to minimize the scraping and injury to the skin when someone slides either into a base or on the turf. The compression shorts, as the name implies, are designed to compress the upper thigh region in order to minimize injury to the front and back sides (ham-strings, etc.). But! neither of these should ever be considered as an alternative to the athletic supporter, which has a different though important sports medicine purpose. Unfortunately, and inexplicably, many athletes today eschew wearing a jockstrap, and are under the impression that the sliding short or compression short (and even now, the "Peter Pan tights" which ostensibly straight athletes are wearing!) can replace the need for a proper supporter. Some companies have sewn pockets into the sliding/compression shorts, as an "all-in-one" for the athletes, but after several washings, the material in the sliding/compression shorts becomes less restrictive and the protective cup has the tendency to shift in the course of movement. What so many people do not realize is that when the cup shifts, if the athlete suddenly experiences impact, the mis-positioned cup can actually be wedged between the two testicles, thus causing horrific and painful damage.

Perhaps this is too much information, but your question is important and all of us must continue to emphasize, especially to the next generation of athletes, the literally vital importance of protecting the genitals by wearing a proper jockstrap and protective cup.

Let me know your thoughts.

Mike

Thank you for all the information. It's very insightful.
So a guy would wear a jock, boxer briefs, a cup, another jock, and then uniform? How'd he even move with that many layers? As someone said, the mesh pouch jock, a cup, and another jock, I could see. But the boxer briefs in between, seems like too much to me.

 

[BillyC]

Dear Scott,

Over the course of a century of manufacturing, you are correct that two different materials were used. The porous-knit, mesh pouch is designed to regulate temperature. The solid pouch is designed so that the cup which is inside will not so easily tear the fabric in the course of movement.

There was a time that protective cups were even made out of metal, so you can imagine that the metal would tear the porous-knit, mesh pouch.

In my years as both an athlete and coach, it was a common practice in heavy contact sports (my background is in Lacrosse) that the athlete would strip down completely and strap into a regular, porous-knit jockstrap. Then, he would don a very light material (similar to today's boxer-brief) cotton short, and would next strap a protective cup over the short and the jockstrap underneath. He would then don his uniform shorts over the combination. It was tight, to be sure, but two forms of preventative sports medicine were being observed: the genitals were supported (literally) in order to minimize scrotal torsion and to provide temperature modulation using the regular jockstrap; the light material short was to prevent chafing and "raspberries" when sliding or skidding on the turf; and the protective cup was to minimize injury from direct impact to the area.

When sliding shorts and compression shorts were designed, they were also designed for a specific, preventative sports medicine purpose. The sliding shorts, as the name implies, are designed to minimize the scraping and injury to the skin when someone slides either into a base or on the turf. The compression shorts, as the name implies, are designed to compress the upper thigh region in order to minimize injury to the front and back sides (ham-strings, etc.). But! neither of these should ever be considered as an alternative to the athletic supporter, which has a different though important sports medicine purpose. Unfortunately, and inexplicably, many athletes today eschew wearing a jockstrap, and are under the impression that the sliding short or compression short (and even now, the "Peter Pan tights" which ostensibly straight athletes are wearing!) can replace the need for a proper supporter. Some companies have sewn pockets into the sliding/compression shorts, as an "all-in-one" for the athletes, but after several washings, the material in the sliding/compression shorts becomes less restrictive and the protective cup has the tendency to shift in the course of movement. What so many people do not realize is that when the cup shifts, if the athlete suddenly experiences impact, the mis-positioned cup can actually be wedged between the two testicles, thus causing horrific and painful damage.

Perhaps this is too much information, but your question is important and all of us must continue to emphasize, especially to the next generation of athletes, the literally vital importance of protecting the genitals by wearing a proper jockstrap and protective cup.

Let me know your thoughts.

Mike

Thanks Professor Mike! I feel like I’ve been to school . . . though this go-round I didn’t get a blowjob in the latrine. I have a problem feeling comfortable in so many layers. Hell, when we box, it’s the huge, bulky cups, which are still too confining on the inside and feel like a melon swinging around with my crotch on the outside as we move.

 

[jocksnsocks2002]

Thank you for all the information. It's very insightful.
So a guy would wear a jock, boxer briefs, a cup, another jock, and then uniform? How'd he even move with that many layers? As someone said, the mesh pouch jock, a cup, and another jock, I could see. But the boxer briefs in between, seems like too much to me.

Dear Scott,
My apologies for the delay. I have been traveling. Thank you for your reply. I should clarify that the layering which I have described is part of "my generation", which is to say high school/college in the 1970s/1980s. Of course, thanks to technology, much better designs and much lighter fabrics are now available so the necessity of wearing multiple layers has mostly disappeared. Back then, I recall the brand name of Russell which made a short out of very light cotton - similar to the texture of a t-shirt - which American football players often wore (with a jockstrap underneath, of course) on "light pads" practice days, and I recall the wrestling team also using them for practice. You have probably seen these in older photographs. These light shorts were perhaps the precursor to the design of the compression short, without the compression.
One more point of clarification. The cup was worn inside a cup supporter/jockstrap. So the athlete would wear a regular jockstrap, thin shorts, a cup-supporter over those thin shorts with a cup inserted, and then uniform shorts.
Mike

 

[BillyC]

Dear Scott,
My apologies for the delay. I have been traveling. Thank you for your reply. I should clarify that the layering which I have described is part of "my generation", which is to say high school/college in the 1970s/1980s. Of course, thanks to technology, much better designs and much lighter fabrics are now available so the necessity of wearing multiple layers has mostly disappeared. Back then, I recall the brand name of Russell which made a short out of very light cotton - similar to the texture of a t-shirt - which American football players often wore (with a jockstrap underneath, of course) on "light pads" practice days, and I recall the wrestling team also using them for practice. You have probably seen these in older photographs. These light shorts were perhaps the precursor to the design of the compression short, without the compression.
One more point of clarification. The cup was worn inside a cup supporter/jockstrap. So the athlete would wear a regular jockstrap, thin shorts, a cup-supporter over those thin shorts with a cup inserted, and then uniform shorts.
Mike

My oldest brother (then an MLB player) had a few pair of Russell practice shorts. He wore them commando as loungewear, and I wanted him to wear a pair for about a month and then give them to me. Unfortunately by the time I made the request, he had a husband who called dibs on the ones he had left. All I got was a jockstrap! Oh wait . . . I did okay, didn’t I? LOL